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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:27 pm 
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Just when you thought they could not come up with anything else.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:15 pm 
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What happens if you don't have arms?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:28 pm 
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interesting..... the is a phrase on that site, a quote from the makers ? of the braclet.....

"It is amazing how much controversy our new research project has created."


the phrase research project.... does this mean that have not even invented them? :?
I can not seeing the happening would the American public go for it? and if it did and someone got shocked for the wrong reason.... Lawsuit ... :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:01 am 
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Spatman wrote:
What happens if you don't have arms?


You wouldn't be much of a threat as a hijacker now would you? :lol:

"I'M TAKING OVER THE PLANE!!!"

"Err... could someone undo my seatbelt please?"


(By the way--- that wasn't meant as a jab at any armless people :roll: )


Why don't they just have the option to electrify all the seats? :roll: :lol:

Or maybe depressurize the cabin and make all the passengers go night night?

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In that case they'd make it a collar...
You go near the cockpit and your head explodes. Im sure ive seen that in a film or two..:)

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nice call on the Zim-age :lol:

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Absolutely inane. Who comes up with bullshit like this? Honestly, are we still having problems on flights? I don't want to have to suffer the embarassment of getting a dog collar attached to me just so I can go visit family and friends.

Bring back trains.

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I don't see an issue with it. The Government makes me wear an exploding collar every day. I just hope the Airline one's colors don't clash with the one I already wear.

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Spat just for you they will make sure the colors clash. hehe

I need you to send the color breakdown of your current one so I can forward to the Gestapo.

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You realise that by simply discussing this, Aliens Legacy is probably now on a CIA watchlist?

Of course, it's been on MI5's list for ages, ever since we started discussing toy guns!


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I don't know, the pilots aboard the planes that hit the twin towers could have used those.

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Hmm glad I only drive place to place.

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I don't know, the pilots aboard the planes that hit the twin towers could have used those.


I'm pretty sure the passengers wouldn't have complained too much about the shock either, given the alternative.

You can cry "How dare they!" all you want, but I'd like to see someone counter that argument, lol. Not that I think these will ever actually come into use, but *shrug* wouldn't bother me a bit to wear one. Call me crazy.

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Am I the only one that see gradual erosion of our freedoms in the name of fighting Terror™ is a major objective of the terrorists in the first place?


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That's a very good point as well.

I'm not against giving up a few freedoms out of necessity, but as Gareth points out, the problem would seem to be getting them back again afterwards. :/

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The problem would seem to be getting them back again afterwards. :/

There is no problem. The War on Terror™ is one that won't be decisively over, ever. There will always be a bogeyman/group that threatens all our lives more than Cancer, Auto accidents and old age put together.

Don't get me started on the politics of fear, please ...


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:20 am 
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The problem I see is that apart from the obvious, being - any real hijackers would no doubt have found a way to remove or render the bracelets useless anyway but

if the bracelets only become "active" once a hijacking situation has been identifed and in order for them to be "activated" a crew member must manually do this (or that's how I read it anyway) then doesn't this assume that a member of the crew will actually be ABLE to activate them in the first place. If the hijackers were any good they would no doubt render the crew ineffective immediately and give them no chance to activate the system.

SO, if that were the case then really the system would need to be active all the time so that a crew member could immediately stun a hijacker. My concern with that being that an over zealous steward would not necessarily use this "as a last line of defence" but would be tempted to stun someone just for having an argument with them or something.

Personally I doubt these will come into use but I have to say, I dont much like the idea of having a shock bracelet put on me that some stewardess could zap me with at any time they liked.

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Well, this is pure speculation of course, but I would imagine that the "trigger" for the system would be in the cockpit, which is kept locked. Not saying there isn't any way someone could stop the pilots from activating it if they needed to, but I can't think of one.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:26 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:42 am 
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Outcry27 wrote:
Well, this is pure speculation of course, but I would imagine that the "trigger" for the system would be in the cockpit, which is kept locked.



The only problem I find with that is that the Captain wouldn't exactly be able to pin point who needs to be stunned unlike a flight attendant. So that would probably necessitate all the passengers being stunned.

So it would have to be powerful enough to disable someone but not strong enough to be lethal to someone with a pacemaker, the young the elderly etc. :?

And yeah... I gotta say I would accept being stunned rather than face what the hijackers would have in store.

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Well, didn't they finally lock the door to the cockpit and reinforce it? Not a whole lot anyone can do these days to take a plane down without access to the controls.

I say the flight attendants should carry stun guns, and the pilots should be armed. That would dissuade a lot of would be hijackers.

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Just as a matter of interest..
Anybody know the hijacking statistics before and since 9-11?

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Spatman wrote:
Well, didn't they finally lock the door to the cockpit and reinforce it? Not a whole lot anyone can do these days to take a plane down without access to the controls.

I say the flight attendants should carry stun guns, and the pilots should be armed. That would dissuade a lot of would be hijackers.


You know.. If they let us all carry guns this would solve the problem too. What hijacker would want to take on a group of redneck Yankee's with guns?? :twisted:

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Am I the only one that see gradual erosion of our freedoms in the name of fighting Terror™ is a major objective of the terrorists in the first place?



I came to this thread to post the very same comment.
This is a free society, seemingly now eroding into a not so-free scociety.

Terror campaigns are meant to "scare" a population into changing their views and practices,
into something other than what they are.

We win by changing our way of life as little as possible.
Shock braclets are an unnecessary change and a step toward the loosing side.

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