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 Post subject: G&P Kit review, tried searching for it
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:26 am 
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I combed thru here looking for a review of the G&P kit, and couldn't find one...anyone have a link?

eHobby Asia is listing these in stock, and I just picked up a CYMA TSMG. I want to build a static gun, the CYMA + G&P seems like a good route to go.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:11 am 
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The CYMA + the G&P kit will work with a little fitting/fudging of the kit. At least in my experience, it didn't go together as seamlessly as I had hoped. Mainly the grip and the brace just behind it seemed to fit funny. Other than that, it worked pretty well.

If you were only going for a static gun, I would've reccommended getting a broken one from Kapowwee. It'll have all the physical parts you need to build the gun but it just won't be a functional airsoft rifle. I paid 40 bucks for mine (and managed to get it working with a few parts replaced and some work of my own), so if you can back out of your TSMG purchase, you might wanna go with a broken one instead.

If you have questions about the kit, I'm sure they'd be answered here in a heartbeat.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:45 pm 
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Having just built one,

Its quite an easy kit to put together, but as bazookafied said, it does need a bit of fettling - i had trouble with the stock sliders, the butt plate to stock assembly, and some of the body pin holes were too tight.

A dremel and sharp hobby knife were godsends!

Review wise, what would you be interested in? Looks, ease of assembly etc?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:29 pm 
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PVB's assembly guide is pretty much a review at the same time and spot on, IMO.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:43 pm 
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Ttaskmaster wrote:
PVB's assembly guide is pretty much a review at the same time and spot on, IMO.

You rang? :D

See my guide in my sig, but be aware that I messed up using some bolts in the wrong place, so take extra care in using the round headed hex bolts for all outer surfaces, maybe sorting/counting out the ones you need for each stage before assembly. :)

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:55 pm 
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Thanks guys, I appreciate the info. I was just trying to figure out if the kit was worth the cost, or if I should build my gun from Matsuo and other compnents. I think I'll start with the G&P kit and upgrade as neccessary.

I paid $45 for my CYMA, was that a good price? :D

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:57 pm 
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It can be a bit difficult to replace bits of the G&P kit with more accurate/suitable bits, but the G&P is a good basis for a starter PR. :)

However, if you've got the funds and opportunity, I'd go for Matsuo parts instead. 8)

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:43 pm 
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Just watch out for the pull out stock adjustment. No matter how you follow the G&P instructions, it's not going to ratchet for you. You have to make a similar modification as below to get that spring loaded stud to go in the index hole.

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The best mod's that were made for the G&P pretty much all were achieved by Matt Noble. Matt had used his access to a 3D printer and printed parts e.g. a cut away mag base to allow for winding of the magazine for BB's, a mag holder to replace the stock one that also had the false release taps built-in, screen accurate sling, and a rounded back end for converting the G&P rectangular shape near the stock to a proper rounded shape ala. the screen used pulse rifle. Of course, you can not attach a sling to a G&P PR unless you had sling mounts. Best way to do that would be to get a metal barrel vent and a metal pull out stock with the sling loops soldered in already.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:53 pm 
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Of course, you can not attach a sling to a G&P PR unless you had sling mounts. Best way to do that would be to get a metal barrel vent and a metal pull out stock with the sling loops soldered in already.

I fit a sling to my G&P PR by clipping it through holes in the metal vent and stock just fine. :)

The stock ratchet also worked for a couple of weeks after putting it together, then stopped working. :roll: :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:40 pm 
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Thanks, Steve but we're talking semi or full accuracy since if you're gonna spend the money to get the proper 8 stripe OD sling with the correct hardware your attachment points better to be: 1. Hard as in hard points like where bombs hang off of planes, 2. Accurate if possible -- would be my take on that. ;)

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:40 pm 
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Thanks, Steve but we're talking semi or full accuracy since if you're gonna spend the money to get the proper 8 stripe OD sling with the correct hardware your attachment points better to be: 1. Hard as in hard points like where bombs hang off of planes, 2. Accurate if possible -- would be my take on that. ;)

I don't have a Noble sling though, just one off an old gas mask bag, so that'll do for me. :D :wink:

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