Driving home from work, sat behind an SUV who is waitng to turn left....I hear tyres screeching and BHAM....we get launched a few feet forward.

I check Cherie is ok, flip on the hazards and get out.
What do I see?

I see the guy who hit us (Hispanic kid) turning his car around to drive away
I promptly give chase but of course cars go faster than me. I get his license plate and before I know it two cars who were facing the same way he went gave chase - BHAM off they go.
I run back, write down the license plate (which I got wrong, luckily two other witnesses got it right).
Dial 911, advise of the incident and clear the road - no one hurt.

From the people that gave chase he got on his cell phone, called his girlfriend to pick him up as she was there ready in her car. He loses control and ploughs his car into the curb trashing his front end.
Two big guys from the car wash across the street see him make a run for it, chase him down and pin him down until the cops arrive.
Again, that was from the people that gave chase from our incident.

Anyway, he was an illegal alien with no license or insurance so he's on his way back to Mexico. Cherie and I are left with paying the bills.
We have the uninsured coverage on our insurance, which I didn't know we had until I read it so I'd be intrigued how it works.






The incident could have been A LOT worse, luckily no one was hurt. The damage also could have been A LOT worse.

Anyway....that is why I dislike illegal aliens.

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Sorry to hear about your accident Tony.

I live in a heavy Latino area, and work in south central LA.

A lot of our employees have questionable paperwork (illegal)

and are hard working people.


I hope in this f-ed up moment, don't pass judgement on a very large segment of the population.

Oh don't get me wrong, I know a lot of illegals (probably the majority) are very hard working.

But we have public transport in OKC for those who can't drive.
This guy was putting people's lives in danger by driving without a license....this is where I have no sympathy for the guy.
Coming here illegally was one thing, but getting behind the wheel is totally another.

I'm just thankful no one was seriously hurt.

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Damn Bro- sorry to hear about the accident! Glad you and the Missus weren't hurt.

Any idea of the expense at this point? Keep us informed!

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Deductible and some rental costs, that's about it.
We have an emergency fund for this sort of thing, so its not going to bankrupt us by any means

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Let us know if you need help.

I'm glad your insurers will come through with most of the costs. Sounds like a nasty experience besides the damage to your car.

I thought you had something to say about Xenos for a second there!

Thanks guys, but in our debt free plan we have an emergency fund that covers these little......well when 'life happens'.

This will be the 3rd bumper the cars going to have now and we've only got 1 more payment on it <lol>
This is why we have insurance......I just wish the other guy did too

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I have met many Illegal aliens, and Yes they do work hard, But That really makes no difference. My biggest problem with them is the bleeding heart Americans that let them Work with false documents, and collect public services That I pay for. When people want to come to the US they need to get in line, and do it the right way. I would do the same if I ever wanted to live in another country.

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My grandpa put it very accurately: If someone comes to the front door and asks for help Ill give them the shirt off m back. If they sneak in the back door in the middle of the night Ill give them my shot gun. A little dramatic but to the point.

I dont care if you are from Mexico, Ireland or Norway. Come to this country and obey our laws. Id dont smuggle booze when I go to Muslim countries and respect the laws of where im at at the moment.

I got rear ended in 98 and they took off. I chased them in my 911 for 5-6 miles until gridlock stopped them. The cops showed up and they pleaded ignorance. Cops observed the paint transfer and that the driver was drunk. They also said he had no insurance. 30 days later the DA sent me a letter of his court date. I showed up and just happen to sit behind him and the public defender. It turns out that his wife had insurance on the car but he didn't want her rates to go up because he hit a Porsche. His green card had also expired 2 years before. When the judge started the hearing I asked to speak as I was the victim. The looks on there faces was priceless!!! The defense attorney started spouting attorney client privelge, eaves dropping etc. I said "Your honor, conversation at normal levels is not protected." He agreed and I spilled the beans on his little scam. He was remanded for processing my the INS and his wife was forced to give me her insurance information.

Illegal aliens are already under the radar. If they screw up they will be gone at the drop of the hat regardless of ethnicity.

I smuggle booze into Muslim countries.



But the Jack Daniels in Turkey is just too damned expensive!

And I agree. I hate the idea that my taxes are paying an illegal Alien's welfare check.

But the fact is, if you're already breaking one law (being in a country illegally), why not just drive without a license, too? In many states, the laws are so convoluted that there's almost no recourse.

I almost moved out of NY when they wanted to pass a law allowing illegal aliens to get legal driver's licenses and access to health coverage. So they could work, drive, make money and have almost all of the same rights that I do, but they wouldn't have to pay taxes on any of it. I was tempted to renounce my US citizenship and just live here as an illegal.



But glad to hear that you're ok, and at least no one (in your car) got hurt. I had to chase down and pull over some illegals who also hit and run someone down in Florida years back. It really does happen a lot.

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Not to hijack but why are you a bad man again in your poster?

Somebody said "Illegal Alien", he thougt they said "Alien" - Signed in!

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This may be a stupid question, but just how did this illegal come into ownership of a vehicle?
You have to have insurance to get a car...right? And you have to have a license to get insurance, yes?

Either way, having to deal with insurance companies is a pain in the ass, even if it's your own.

I'm sorry you and Cherie are having to deal with this, but I'm glad to hear you are both o.k.

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I'm bad because I got into a fight with a Canadian. I guess it's ok for me to change it back now.

Insurance is optional in some states. And you don't need anything to buy a car but money. To get "legal" plates for the car in most states you need proof of insurance, and to get insurance you need a license. But you can buy a car off some "friend" of yours in cash and just not file papers. You pay him, get the title or pink slip, and then just drive. The seller will cancel the insurance, or just let it lapse, and then it's the buyer's problem to get insurance and complete the transfer.

In New York, once you cancel your insurance, you have like 7 days to turn your plates in to the DMV or your license is suspended, so if you are the seller, it behooves you to do it legally.

But there's always stolen cars, stolen plates, crack car sales, etc.

There are plenty of easy ways to drive illegally if you want to, but very few (and more complicated) ways to do it legally.

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My hope is that he got the car from somewhere, and that somewhere/someone had insurance. Wishful thinking I know.

Either way, its just our $250 deductible and any extra for a rental car over $16 a day.


Not to turn this into an illegal immigrant debate, but I could not have put that better myself.

I'm an immigratant and I spent my hard earned money going through the process. Now the process is complete I can use my hard earned money to live a good life. By good life I mean paying for my license, insurance and general law abiding costs.

Spat....the NY 'Licenses for Illegals' almost got me driving to NY to beat the living crap out of that guy. Luckily he destroyed himself by not keeping it in his pants <lol>
I don't get what the deal is.....how do these people get into office?

Anyway, car is scheduled to be repaired Monday so I'll be late into work. Again I'm just thankful that $250 and a few hours work is all we'll lose.
Thanks for the concern all

...and Pug...if Abe's got a little critter cousin I can borrow I know where the I.C.E detention centre is

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A Mexican Xenomorph? You know that would be a VERY BAD THING. Besides, the accent loses something in the DNA Reflex process!

Let's just say it does not have to be a Illegal to cause these problems. Between my work (ambulance) and my friends in law enforcement, see lots of "Born In The USA" white trash driving w/o a license or insurance. In fact the amount of Hit and Run accidents are up due to people driving w/o insurance. That is why I have full coverage my 85 POS Bronco.
And yes I have been victim to an uninsured driver in 2001 who did $5000 worth of damage to my Jeep. My agent was easy to deal with.

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Yep. The last accident I was in involved getting hit by a white guy with no insurance and a "borrowed" car. Later his friends "claimed" he "stole" the car without their knowledge.

Suuuuuuure he did.

Tony, sorry to hear about your trouble, but let's keep this thread from turning into a witch hunt.

If it gets worse, it's gone.

Russ

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Rook dont nuke it:). Friendly debate/observation. Just by the sheer demographic numbers.......if you get hit by an un insured person it will be a native American (as in born here not Indian). Like I said above I dont care what your ethnicity is or where you are from, play by the rules or go home I will do the same in your country. Surprisingly I have seen 2 hit and run parking lot bumps here. Both my soccer moms with that "oops'' look on there face. BTW "oops" translates to let me now move my big SUV a couple rows over and hope nobody saw what I did.

Tony, you can have the court place a judgment attached to the defendants car untill they pay for the damages. Even if you only get a few hundred bucks, they cant sell it without getting the judgment settled. Just show up for the trial and you wont have to pay for a lawyer or anything. Its part of the sentencing phase of his hit and run.

We commonly get into fights with Spat.

Spat and Canada is like sandpaper and oranges.

Heh - I think it's time for us all to get along... hell we're all expendable marines Besides, before joining up I spent many years being expendable wearing the red shirt for security at a con

OK waaay off topic, back on track.



I feel exactly the same way.

Your rights end where mine begin.

They're already in another country without permission and the punishment they receive after getting caught committing crime(s) is to be deported back to just lather, rinse, repeat? I'm not grouping them all in the same lot however it is apparent the rotten apples to spoil the bunch.

I'm happy that the outcome of this wasn't as bad as it could have been, glad folks are ok. I'm also glad to have read about others witnessing the events and taking action instead of being sheeple.

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Russ is right, no witch hunt please (my comments didn't help I know)

Thanks for the advise lear......I'll speak with the insurance after the repairs are done to see what their course of action is.
I have the guys address (the place he crashed was where he lived) so I'm wondering if I am entitled to any monetary items left behind after his deportation.
Again, no witch hunt here.....but he must have accumulated 'stuff' that he isn't allowed to take back with him.
Just a thought.

I called the Police Department and they said it was a question for an attorney. So I'll get the details of his 'case' and see what can be done.

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That's right boys and girls.. The moral of the story is always have uninsured covrage if not full covrage, because there is always some POS without insurance around the corner.

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Before I transferred to the DSS, I worked in a Jobcentre. Had a Somalian make a claim. He followed the rules, went through the correct immigration route, did all the proper paperwork. And, he was struggling to get a job after over a year - he was a qualified Doctor!

Over here we have people who will deliberately employ illegals so they can pay them less, and not have to pay tax or national insurance for them, saving even more money!!!



The problem is that a lot of these illegals see the UK, USA, Canada, etc being a land of milk and honey, thinking they get a good deal while they get paid £10 a day for ten hours work, getting themselves thousands into debt with the trafficers, which being paid peanuts they will never ever escape.

And of course, it's the ones who smash into other cars without a licence or insurance, commit crimes, etc who get the headlines.

After all "Illegal Immigrant comes to UK, works hard, and does nothing wrong" don't really blaze it's way across the papers!!

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