The Aliens Legacy :: View topic - Needed: Import replica ruling from the UK guys...

You should be ok if the kits are transparent or pigmented or pre-painted in the following acceptable colours detailed in the Violent Crime Reduction Act (Sec38 (3) (b):

An imitation firearm, irrespective of the type of firearm or which it is an imitation, will not be considered to be a realistic imitation firearm if it is of a specified principal colour:
i) bright red
ii) bright orange
iii) bright yellow
iv) bright green
v) bright pink
vi) bright purple; and
vii) bright blue
viii) or transparent

Section 38 - Meaning of “realistic imitation firearm”

the imitation is to be regarded as distinguishable if its size, shape or principal colour is unrealistic for a real firearm.

Most UK replica dealers are following this policy...

However, any modifications performed by the purchaser, are subject to the VCR Act.

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2006/ukpga_20060038_en_5#pt2-pb5-l1g36

Author:	Russ Krook III [ Sun May 25, 2008 3:31 am ]
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I'm making Webley pistol replicas now. I have a couple people in the UK that want them, but with the current restrictions... what's a lad to do? I know about the 51% color thing for airsoft, but what's the situation regarding resin replica pistols? Is there a "foolproof" way to get them in the country? Thanks! Russ

Author:	JediFraz [ Tue May 27, 2008 1:49 pm ]
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Nothing foolproof as far as I know. Importing one or two bits is OK, importing enough bits to construct a Replica Imitation Firearm is ilegal, unless you are UKARA registered. Additionally, assembling them in a Replica or Imitation Firearm is another thing that's ilegal. Unless of course they are UKARA registered. If they are resin kits. Clearly marking them as scale model kits on the custom form as well as putting a standard disclaimer inside the box should be ok. You know the usual..This is a static model kit and Does not fire. It cannot be made to fire. ect ect. If the adressee is a UKARA registered person get a note of their UKARA number and print it clearly on a note inside the box. Then if customs opens the box they check the guy out and everyones happy. The UK guys should know about the restrictions. As long as they know it's at their own risk and they are aware of the potential jail time and fines they face then it should be OK.. Otherwise I think your just asking for trouble. Problem is the law is still pretty new and there isn't any additional clarification or precidents. Yet. Maybe Scapey could fill in any gaps.?

Author:	sixty [ Tue May 27, 2008 2:03 pm ]
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Mind, they don't have to be UKARA registered specifically; just a member of a site with PLI...

Author:	JediFraz [ Tue May 27, 2008 2:06 pm ]
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But if they're not UKARA registered then there will be a hold at customs, until they prove themselves, if it gets stopped.

Author:	Sidewinder [ Tue May 27, 2008 2:34 pm ]
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Are they kits or one solid piece Rook SAS

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Author:	sixty [ Tue May 27, 2008 2:44 pm ]
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From what I gather from some of the chaps up this way and my own experience so far, if it's a complete RIF or a complete kit then stuff is getting held regardless of UKARA membership or not, and it gets dealt with in similar timeframes whether you supply HRMC with UKARA registration, proof of site membership or even a personal skirmishing diary with site names, dates and signatures of site owners. Fun fun fun...

Author:	Russ Krook III [ Tue May 27, 2008 2:45 pm ]
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I've been selling them as a finished piece, but they can be done as kits. Here's what we're looking at... That was the prototype. And the finished piece. Takes several hours from start to finish to er, finish one. There are sites in the UK selling metal replicas of guns and blank firing versions, but they're painted "bright" colors to be legal. Russ

Author:	Sidewinder [ Tue May 27, 2008 2:55 pm ]
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Very noice. Supply it with the frame/barrel sprayed yellow. That way anyone can own it. Plus I like yellow. Declare it as a "metal and plastic model kit" (if it has metal parts) on the customs. SAS

Author:	alexeberlin [ Thu May 29, 2008 2:54 pm ]
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nice..possibly not helpful to anyone here but as well as being a skirmisher ( on the rare occasions when time permits) I hold film-makers exemption..of course no-one wants to be a test case.Especially me

Author:	Armourer [ Fri May 30, 2008 2:05 pm ]
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You should be ok if the kits are transparent or pigmented or pre-painted in the following acceptable colours detailed in the Violent Crime Reduction Act (Sec38 (3) (b): An imitation firearm, irrespective of the type of firearm or which it is an imitation, will not be considered to be a realistic imitation firearm if it is of a specified principal colour: i) bright red ii) bright orange iii) bright yellow iv) bright green v) bright pink vi) bright purple; and vii) bright blue viii) or transparent Section 38 - Meaning of “realistic imitation firearm” the imitation is to be regarded as distinguishable if its size, shape or principal colour is unrealistic for a real firearm. Most UK replica dealers are following this policy... However, any modifications performed by the purchaser, are subject to the VCR Act. http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2006/ukpga_20060038_en_5#pt2-pb5-l1g36

Author:	Russ Krook III [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:57 pm ]
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Some neon colored options for UK collectors... Quoted from a thread of mine at the Club Obi Wan forums... Quote: Here's the first one I found and then some others I've found since: http://www.battleorders.co.uk/acatalog/ ... _GUNS.html http://www.surplusstore.co.uk/catalog/i ... Path/70_35 http://www.historical-firearms.co.uk/ac ... rrent.html And a place that does wooden replicas who say the same about the bright colours (they used to do a Webley): http://www.relics.org.uk/index.php?PHPS ... 1f1b5ba78c It also specifically mentions the colours in The Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006 (Realistic Imitation Firearms) Regulations 2007: http://opsi.gov.uk/si/si2007/uksi_20072606_en_1

Author:	companyman [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:56 pm ]
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Armourer wrote: You should be ok if the kits are transparent or pigmented or pre-painted in the following acceptable colours detailed in the Violent Crime Reduction Act (Sec38 (3) (b): An imitation firearm, irrespective of the type of firearm or which it is an imitation, will not be considered to be a realistic imitation firearm if it is of a specified principal colour: i) bright red ii) bright orange iii) bright yellow iv) bright green v) bright pink vi) bright purple; and vii) bright blue viii) or transparent Section 38 - Meaning of “realistic imitation firearm” the imitation is to be regarded as distinguishable if its size, shape or principal colour is unrealistic for a real firearm. Most UK replica dealers are following this policy... However, any modifications performed by the purchaser, are subject to the VCR Act. http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2006/ukpga_20060038_en_5#pt2-pb5-l1g36 Yeah, this is something to be very, very careful of. The VCR does take into account the fact that nothing would prevent someone buying a bright orange BB gun, then just spray the thing black to make it look real. It's like IIRC that case where the guy held up a bank with a banana in a bag pretending it was a gun still got done for armed robbery - it's the intention that's the law looks at. Thing is of course, with the VCR in it's infancy, they are more likely to prosecute to ensure the law works and is enforcable (see the hunting cases for example).

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