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 Post subject: Warning for all you browncoats....
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:36 pm 
Got word alongs the wave that the Alliance (Universal) is out to get you. This is quoted from a friend on another site. If you're doing any work, keep it off the waves.

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Hey guys! It was suggested I post this here, so...

Remember when "Serenity" was coming out, Universal was all supportive of guerilla marketing and campaigning and fans and fansites? Universal is now sending C&Ds to "Serenity"-related fansites and shops.

First up, the report from Whedonesque from earlier this week:

Universal Licensing LLC closing Serenity/Firefly fan shops. Fans getting C&D orders, Cafepress have removed all search results for Firefly and Serenity. 20th Century Fox closed another site earlier in the month. Edit: Chris says 'Some shopowners have gotten notices from Universal's legal people about infringement, with some serious language (not just Cease and Desist).' Edit: Black Market Beagles closing. (read more)

Next, a statement from 11th Hour, posted to the Firefly boards:

The Demand continues, and includes such stipulations that within 72 hours I must agree to: pay a retroactive $8,750 licensing fee; the permanent closing of my shop; turn over any merchandise referring to the Universal Property; and provide the last 12 months complete sales records... there's more, but that's the gist... oh, except for the threat of federal court and the statutory damages thingy of $150,000 per infringed work... don't want to go leaving that part out. (read more)

There is interesting commentary resulting from that at Whedonesque, including whether or not it would be worth it to boycott Universal.

See also, the Open Letter to Browncoats at Serenity Stuff:

After years of the careful and unspoken "we won't notice fan-made stuff as long as it doesn't compete with our own merchandise, should we ever get around to making any" attitude from FOX and Universal, a conflict has arisen and a heavy hand is making itself known. No longer will fans get away with their own Serenity logo T-shirts or barely-Photoshopped crewmember designs. It's not worth the hassle and Universal is well within their rights to block such things, even though in the real world I suspect this will end up costing them a lot in good will and fan backlash.

Finally, there is The Browncoat Invoice. Fans have been asked to write in and submit the total number of hours they have spent promoting and marketing "Serenity." Billable hours so far stand at 20,257 with a estimated amount due being $1,519,275.

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 Post subject: Re: Warning for all you browncoats....
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:08 pm 
Boy, that friggin' sucks bigtime!! Scum suckin' dirtbags...
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 Post subject: Re: Warning for all you browncoats....
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:36 am 
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Quote:Finally, there is The Browncoat Invoice. Fans have been asked to write in and submit the total number of hours they have spent promoting and marketing "Serenity." Billable hours so far stand at 20,257 with a estimated amount due being $1,519,275.


So... what's that mean? they paying fans for their time, or charging them?
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 Post subject: Re: Warning for all you browncoats....
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:50 am 
Not shiny...not shiny at all:(
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 Post subject: Re: Warning for all you browncoats....
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:35 am 
I've heard of Fox sending out C&D's to the Firefly sites but 'Serenity' is owned by Joss Wheedon and not Universal.

I've also heard many of the C&D's being sent out at by e-mail. Unless it is in paper format and has explicit instructions on who to contact with regards to the legal implications then it is a fake.

...but Fox doing that..........doesn't really surprise me.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:33 am 
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Quote:Finally, there is The Browncoat Invoice. Fans have been asked to write in and submit the total number of hours they have spent promoting and marketing "Serenity." Billable hours so far stand at 20,257 with a estimated amount due being $1,519,275.

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Quote:So... what's that mean? they paying fans for their time, or charging them?



Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that paragraph
explains how the backlash has already started.

I read it as....
"If they are going to C&D us, we're going to bill them for the hours we spent promoting their show!"


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 Post subject: Re: Warning for all you browncoats....
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:13 am 
Ah, I'm braindead today. ^^;

Couldn't tell if the Company asked them to, or if it was a fan based idea. ;)
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 Post subject: Re: Warning for all you browncoats....
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:20 am 
I wonder if QMX woke a sleeping dragon?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:39 pm 
Unshiny :(
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:30 pm 
Oh, juh jen sh guh kwai luh duh jean-jan!

Miserable bastards all. I don't care if they are legally within their rights. There's such a thing as decency.
But who am I kidding? These big companies wouldn't know decency if a Reaver beat them over the head with some...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:14 pm 
Quote:
Quote:Do we care? Are we caring about this now?


It will cotinue, items will be sold........the forums will remain and that is where the products lie. Just no direct website links now.
It goes underground ;)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:26 pm 
I still aim to misbehave...I hope the vendors do too.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:59 pm 
I'd think Universal (Paramount?) would make more money suing all the Trekies....
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 Post subject: Re: Warning for all you browncoats....
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:52 am 
From 11th Hour:

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Quote:Universal's law firm has been authorized to conclude the matter. They have accepted the representations in my letter, and will not pursue any financial demands. The sales number I reported for the shirts relating to the design in question were de minimis, and my compliance with the cease and desist, and my agreement to permanently cease and desist (referencing the movie "Serenity" in my Cafe Press shop) has satisfied this matter.


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