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Author:  Friendlyskies [ Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Maruzen parts info needed
Hi all

I just picked up a Gas Maruzen M870 BV for quite cheap but obviously there was a reason for this.

The shell carrier at the bottom of the gun is missing and the gas valve on the end of the hose is broken.

Here is a pic of the affected area

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Does anyone have a manual for this gun that they could check for me. i need to know the relevant part numbers for the carrier and any associated parts for attaching it and making it work.

Even with these I might struggle to get the parts. Only other opton is if anyone has a broken one that they want to sell for parts? Anyone?

Cheers

Darren
Author:  Rook 3 [ Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:24 am ]
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I looked at my manual and there's no parts numbers or anything in there (Unlike what you'd find in a Marui AEG manual).

Sorry.

Russ

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"Time has little to do with infinity and jelly doughnuts."
Author:  Friendlyskies [ Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:04 pm ]
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Thanks for looking Russ. Looks like I might have hit a dead end with this. Guess my only hope is to pick up a spare parts one from somewhere.
Author:  uscmCorps [ Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:01 pm ]
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You could potentially buy a real steel shell carrier and grind it down to fit the loading port. When I compared my real steel shell carrier to my Maruzen version, the Maruzen version was significantly smaller.

-Alex
"The M41-A. When you absolutely, positively have to kill every mofo in the room. Accept no substitutes."
Author:  Friendlyskies [ Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Maruzen parts info needed
Hi Alex

Yeah, Russ suggested this too. I took the AS M870 to a local gun shop who said that they did not think it would be feasible after looking at a diagram of how the real shell carrier fits into a real M870 and the mechanisms that make it work. He said I would need all the associated fixings etc.

I have no idea personally of how it works but something must lift the shell carrier up so that the new shell goes up into the chamber. On the Maruzen I got there is no carrier and no other visible sign of the mechanics or spring, whatever that make it operate.

If anyone could take a look at their's and tell me how the mechanism works that might be helpful.

Cheers

Darren
Author:  TS826 [ Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:28 am ]
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Perhaps this will help?

www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/?...0_main.htm
Author:  uscmCorps [ Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:33 am ]
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I'll try and take a pic of one of my real steel trigger groups next to my Maruzen trigger group. Might be a couple days though...

-Alex
"The M41-A. When you absolutely, positively have to kill every mofo in the room. Accept no substitutes."
Author:  Rook 3 [ Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Maruzen parts info needed
Quote:
Quote:Perhaps this will help?

www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/?...0_main.htm


You mean this...?

p220.ezboard.com/fthealie...D=75.topic

;)

Russ

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"Time has little to do with infinity and jelly doughnuts."
Author:  Friendlyskies [ Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Maruzen parts info needed
oops, must look harder. Thanks Russ and TS826.

Now that i've seen that i can see in my gun that there is still some remnants of the part, the metal has been snapped on both sides where the red circle indicates

[img]http://www.friendly-skies.co.uk/public_html/m1100-10.jpg[/img]

I may be able to get a new one fabricated I guess.

Alex, as you have the AS and the real version could you compare them as to how easy it would be to alter a real one to fit?

Thanks everyone

Darren
Edited by: [url=http://p220.ezboard.com/bthealienslegacy.showUserPublicProfile?gid=friendlyskies>Friendlyskies[/url] at: 4/27/06 6:33 am
Author:  Friendlyskies [ Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Maruzen parts info needed
Hey TS826

Yeah, I looked at that a while back and again after i got the gun but it doesn't really help with the part i am talking about.
Thanks for the suggestion though.

Alex, a pic would be great thanks. Would help give me a better idea of what I'm looking for.

Cheers

Darren
Author:  Rook 3 [ Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Maruzen parts info needed
If you scroll partway down through those pictures in the guide, there's one that has a full side view, with the casing split in half, showing most of the internal parts laid out. And there's a good side view of the piece in question.

Russ

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"Time has little to do with infinity and jelly doughnuts."
Author:  Friendlyskies [ Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Maruzen parts info needed
HI

I've just ordered a carrier for a real 870. It was only $9.80 so what the hell. I'll let you know how it goes.

cheers

darren
Author:  Rook 3 [ Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Maruzen parts info needed
Be sure and share pictures. You have me really curious now. :)

Russ

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"Time has little to do with infinity and jelly doughnuts."
Author:  MENATARMS [ Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Maruzen parts info needed
Arrgghh .. somebody help this man. I hope it does work, because he tried to convince him to sell my shorty for parts. :lol:
[img]http://www.scifimilitary.com/MAA/SFMsig.jpg[/img]
Author:  Friendlyskies [ Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:52 pm ]
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Well, I had to ask at least
Author:  Friendlyskies [ Thu May 11, 2006 7:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Maruzen parts info needed
Well, I got the carrier in the post. The arms were too short and the "scoop" part too wide and the arms weren't at the right angles to fit in.

I lengthened the arms by cutting away some of the scoop section. I then had to cut some of the arms away to make them thinner near the scoop and then I had to bend the left arm into the correct angle.....



...at which point the arm broke off. Oh well.
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