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 Post subject: A quandry about motion trackers.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:49 pm 

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Finally I have bought a house with a large concrete floored shed out the back and I have been able to start unpacking my stuff, some of it in storage for over ten years.
The accumulation is......impressive.....but I also realise that I maybe do need to rationalise some things.

I basically have three motion trackers.

The Deck 36 one. Long term board members will know some of the background to that one, but suffice to say that it was the first of the few that were made and it has much attached to it.

The Master Replicas one. It is really well made, the sound is good and the display cute but the rough as guts silver paint "weathering" has done and allways will peeve me.

The real deal kit of parts. Real and correct drill housing, light meters, remote releases, Hama slide viewer, enough to have a creditable go at building a "screen accurate" MT. Needs to be made into a motion tracker but it is 90% there

The question is, should I keep them all? Or should I get rid of one?

Just after some advice from my buds here on the board.

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 Post subject: Re: A quandry about motion trackers.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:53 pm 
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Hi Tony,

well, personally I would keep the D36 and the real deal :)

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:58 pm 
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i would also just keep the real deal

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:01 pm 

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Hi Stephan, that is the way I am leaning as well. I need to inventory the real parts and lay them out to see what I still need, but I you probably know why the D36 one will go to my grave with me...... :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: A quandry about motion trackers.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:03 pm 
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I would keep all three, but if you must get rid of one I would say the MR tracker as well.


(Glad to know you're still around Tony!)

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:14 pm 

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There is no absolute about getting rid of any of them, just I feel a bit greedy to have three sometimes.........

Hey to you Kevin....:)

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:47 pm 
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but you probably know why the D36 one will go to my grave with me......


yes I do very well :)

Actually I should keep the MR MT also cus my transformer, self timer, remote release etc. were used to do the master LOL


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:54 pm 
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Box them up and send them to me, you shouldn't have to trouble yourself with these hard decisions. :wink:
Let me take that burden from you :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:37 pm 
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Kepp all of them, and build the ones you have parts for. I would think that would make for an interesting display.

(Hi, also, from me. Always good to see you.)

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 Post subject: Re: A quandry about motion trackers.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:27 pm 
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Hi Tony!

Nice to see you again (or did I miss something?)!
As for the trackers - I'm in the same boat! I have my build up D36 tracker as well as an MR and a full set of the real parts.
I wouldn't worry to let the MR go as there is always the chance to get one back. The D36 on the other hand is a really unique piece. I think only 6 kits were produced and I'm not sure how many of these were actually build. Not to mention all the memories attached to this piece...

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 Post subject: Re: A quandry about motion trackers.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:21 pm 
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The D36 is no longer acceptable material, you may send it immediately for proper disposal.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:44 pm 
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I thought the Deck36 was relatively inaccurate?
And I also didn't realise how rare they were - 6?!

Anyone got the full story behind them? Sounds interesting...

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:22 pm 
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The Deck 36 tracker was very accurate. You might be thinking of the 'Fiction & Fantasy Models' (AKA Global Uplink) one which was cast in one piece (pretty much at least) and had an oversized screen box:

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:49 pm 
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Ah yes, Global Uplink!

Who / when was Deck 36, then?
Was there some drama about a run being cancelled? It rings a vague bell... And would explain the rarity?

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 Post subject: Re: A quandry about motion trackers.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:25 am 

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All the following is personal opinion and coloured by quite a few years seperation from events so take them with a Narcissus sized grain of salt.

The Deck 36 Motion Tracker was to be the first in a line of very accurate Aliens props. All the parts were cast from the correct screen used parts and the whole thing was checked and verified by some very Aliens knowledgable people.
I recieved the first one to critique and review in my then position as operator of this board. I will stress that I did pay full price for the MT, so I feel my opinions were not coloured by the "freebie" factor.

As a kit it went together faultlessly, helped by the engineering finesse put into it, and by subtle but cool factors like the resin being self coloured in BB and hollow cast so even the internal parts matched the screen used parts. At the time, it was the ultimate MT short of using all the screen used parts but it only had a simple slide show type display and lights, so lacked the electronic gee-whizzery of the MR version.

I also got some of the Deck 36 grenades and a grenade box and recieved some of the resin parts of the projected Pulse Rifle, all of which did nothing to dispel the belief that Deck 36 would be a valuable player in the props community, in my mind at least.

The D36 MT was not cheap, but well worth it from my point of view.
However some people expressed their views it was overpriced on the board and a major meldown ensued by the maker that resulted in very few people actually getting one. What people did not see on the board was the amount of time I personally spent off-board ( all night sessions being the norm) trying to help resolve the issues and to metaphorically "talk the guy down off the ledge"..... :(
But that is part and parcel of being involved in running a board such as this and I do not begrudge it one iota.
Sometimes I even miss it...... :wink:

The Deck 36 Motion Tracker is important because I have so much emotionally invested in it, plus I will keep it to commemorate those who didn't get one when they should have :evil: .

Upside yesterday while sorting stuff I found my Hyperdine light and sound package for a motion tracker, so there is some bells and whistles to add to an MT build!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:11 am 

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Good god Harry, I just pulled the D36 out of its box and unwrapped it and checked the commisioning plate inside the self timer box.

HKSW/ D36 MT-001 1Jun2001! Has it really been eight years?

It still is a sweet piece, just have to find the meter piece off the top (in storage somewhere, never finished the detail painting on it). I will try to rassle up some pictures if anyone is interested?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:35 am 
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Spellbinder99 wrote:
I will try to rassle up some pictures if anyone is interested?


But of course! 8)

Yes please!

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 Post subject: Re: A quandry about motion trackers.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:47 am 
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The D36 MT was and still is the closest resin replica ever made in my opinion.
ALL single real parts were casted perfectly including the four main parts of the Kango - so it was stripable like a real power drill with all screws and small parts - no solid blocks.

Anybody who ever built a MT from real parts can imagine what fantastic casting work have to be done when you check out the Kango parts with all these little details inside - after building three real deal MT`s I know what I am talking about.

The D36 building and painting guide on the net was the finest and first reference to build a replica out of real parts and should be part of the archive section of this board.

Over 8 years ago now ? Finally the MT itself was bringing me in touch with Harry, Bug Stomper and the "old" Aliens board.

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PS: let me know Tony if you need any assistance for build in Jims electronics inside of the Hama viewer


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:52 am 
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I'd take on from you Tony if you really want to part with one, but I'd say keep all three. Glad to hear the house has come together. Tony from SA BTW

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:46 am 

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Where in SA?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:16 am 
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Adelaide... its Tony42 with a name change. I've been wondering how you were.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:15 am 

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Some images for those interested.

A spare handle piece from testing between self coloured resin and painted, note the intricacy of the casting, this is resin, but feels like plastic!

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The monster herself, a bit dusty from years of storage but it adds to the used look. Variations in colour are down to it being assembled from some different castings as the item was developed. Again I like the look.

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The keypad, a printed graphic. Not as 3D as the MR one but looks good in my opinion.

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The data plate, sits nicely inside the self-timer box. All parts apart from the slide-viewer and the cables are resin casts and hollow multi-part.

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And finally, what can I do with this pile? :wink:

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Seriously I still need a pump housing and a keypad. Anyone have originals or resin casts? I know when last I was involved the pump housing was still an item of discussion, any results on that?

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 Post subject: Re: A quandry about motion trackers.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:31 pm 
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Spellbinder99 wrote:
I know when last I was involved the pump housing was still an item of discussion, any results on that?


The last bit of info we came up with was that it is a part from an Aneroid Sphygmomanometer or blood pressure monitor:

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However the exact model/part number or manufacturer was still unknown. Someone else actually found the specific part- and a group order was discussed... but that never panned out either. :(

So the part is still unidentified.

Old thread about it here-

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The D36 tracker looks gorgeous! Love the data plate!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:53 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:31 pm 
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Here are some images from the old thread:

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