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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:38 pm 
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Which pouch kept the battery for shoulder lamp? The big or hip pouch?

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Which pouch kept the battery for shoulder lamp? The big or hip pouch?


Off the top of my head, I would say the big/rump pouch. They all wore them over the left buttock. The lamps were on the left side too, so it would be an easy drop.
Plus with the pouches behind the body they would not be easily visible when the camera was facing the actor.

However I am pretty sure I have seen a pic with the cables from a 'live' lamp that hung all the way down and out of frame being powered from an active source basically with extension cords. I'll try to find it.


EDIT: This photo would indicate there were no batteries at all (at least not for everyone). That looks to be his light's extension cord.
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However, in this photo all lamps are on, and def no wires. So who knows.
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When I obtained my original shoulder lamp it had rechargeable NiCad batteries in it, like you’d find in radio-controlled cars at the time.

I also remember a crew member telling me that they made more lamps than there were actors so that some could be on charge or ready while one was being used. To that end there should be loads of them out there... somewhere!

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When I obtained my original shoulder lamp it had rechargeable NiCad batteries in it, like you’d find in radio-controlled cars at the time.

I also remember a crew member telling me that they made more lamps than there were actors so that some could be on charge or ready while one was being used. To that end there should be loads of them out there... somewhere!

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Oh wow fascinating! Thanks for sharing!


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Harry Harris wrote:
When I obtained my original shoulder lamp it had rechargeable NiCad batteries in it, like you’d find in radio-controlled cars at the time.

I also remember a crew member telling me that they made more lamps than there were actors so that some could be on charge or ready while one was being used. To that end there should be loads of them out there... somewhere!

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Do you have pictures of how you charged or replaced the batteries? It might shed light on how they had the power distribution setup. Though given that point, should we just start a new thread on the lamps?

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Harry Harris wrote:
When I obtained my original shoulder lamp it had rechargeable NiCad batteries in it, like you’d find in radio-controlled cars at the time.

I also remember a crew member telling me that they made more lamps than there were actors so that some could be on charge or ready while one was being used. To that end there should be loads of them out there... somewhere!

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Do you have pictures of how you charged or replaced the batteries? It might shed light on how they had the power distribution setup. Though given that point, should we just start a new thread on the lamps?


On the one that I have there's a connector at the bottom of the lamp box that connects to a charger. I don't know what type it is but it looks like what would have been (and maybe still is) a radio-controlled vehicle battery connector.

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Harry Harris wrote:
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When I obtained my original shoulder lamp it had rechargeable NiCad batteries in it, like you’d find in radio-controlled cars at the time.

I also remember a crew member telling me that they made more lamps than there were actors so that some could be on charge or ready while one was being used. To that end there should be loads of them out there... somewhere!

Harry


Do you have pictures of how you charged or replaced the batteries? It might shed light on how they had the power distribution setup. Though given that point, should we just start a new thread on the lamps?


On the one that I have there's a connector at the bottom of the lamp box that connects to a charger. I don't know what type it is but it looks like what would have been (and maybe still is) a radio-controlled vehicle battery connector.

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Thanks harry. You are an awesome source of information as always. Do you have any video interviews detailing any of your information knowledge base? As we get older it is becoming painfully apparent we need to leave a video and print record for others to at least have a chance of gathering knowledge later.

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I don’t I’m afraid but I’m aware that I should document thinks and make notes on photos I have. I’ll try to get this done in the next few years.

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Oh, I forgot to mention that Hicks did not have a 'hip pouch'. He was the only armored marine to wear only the one pouch (big/rump), so that is another reason it would stand to reason it must have been in the 'big' pouch. Sure he ditched the lamp early, but during the sweep he had a working lamp and only one pouch...so... yeah.


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Good point BigbisonT, I watched your youtube video today where you talked about Hicks only having the one pouch.
I don't know where I read this, or if it's even from a reputable source, but I once heard that there were batteries inside of the lamp and also a second battery in a pouch. -I don't mean to muddy the waters here.-

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Harry Harris wrote:
I don’t I’m afraid but I’m aware that I should document thinks and make notes on photos I have. I’ll try to get this done in the next few years.

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Well if I ever make it over to England, I would love to have a few interviews to try and help on that as you really are an awesome guy with more knowledge than anything.

If anything a podcast just to do information dumps would be good too and that is very doable on youtube with a still picture and just audio commentary. You could even do a slide show with power point and add a custom audio file to play with it through the whole power point and you can then export the powerpoint as a video file that would upload straight to youtube.

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I read somewhere that the battery powered lamps had a really short use like around 30 minutes iicr! So where possible the marines would be plugged into the mains when stationary and filmed from waist hight and the batteries would be used where that was not possible like the shot above with Vasquez walking towards camera.
Can't remember where i saw or read it though unfortunately.

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That sounds about right I'd imagine stimpy. The lamps were 12v MR16 type so would pull a lot of power. These days it would be an LED that would run for hours.

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can we get some pictures of any screen used prop picture power connectors? cord placement and such?

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This is the only image I have at the moment.

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Looks like a tamiya plug on the bottom?


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Looks like a tamiya plug on the bottom?


a large tamisa connector. which would have been around during that period and very much in use with RC applications.

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When I got a battery for my matrix M41A it had an adaptor for that. I could be wrong.


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seven wrote:
When I got a battery for my matrix M41A it had an adaptor for that. I could be wrong.


The matrix has a small tamiya. That plug appears to be a large tamiya...

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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2021 5:38 pm 
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Not sure this actually adds anything that hasn't been discussed, but I realized in this pic that it shows pretty clearly the cable from Hick's lamp going inside the backplate then down and out the bottom into his "large" pouch (or the rump pouch as I call them) on the left side.

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Well look at that!

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Surely modern batteries are small enough to mount in the lamp body?

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Surely modern batteries are small enough to mount in the lamp body?


Absolutely. Mine is a Chef repro and runs on double A's. Bigbisont even converted a rechargeable flashlight to fit (with a USB port at the bottom). There's a video on his YouTube channel showing how to do it.

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my 3d printed body I will probably do a similar setup as I will also use the housing to house a speaker for the smart gun sound effects.

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my 3d printed body I will probably do a similar setup as I will also use the housing to house a speaker for the smart gun sound effects.


That is a cool idea, especially with the way the lamp floats a bit on the smartgunner armour. The sound should carry pretty well.

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