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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:08 am 

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Thanks for that.

I presume this would have been a found part at the time?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:57 pm 
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Well from what I can tell,

the far right tubes were plastruct pieces, and we all know the motorcycle part (can't find the kit)


two little bits on the small rectangular plate appear to be from something.


Round bowl piece under the rectangular plate is scratch built, and there's a lot of other scratch sheet material used.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:32 pm 

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Just a thought. Ive just remember what the vent piece reminded me of. A Britains round baler door:

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also the scoop, though not correct has a similiar shape. Probably to big though.

Could this whole part, if not scratch build, be some sort of small motor housing, the slates being a vent?

Just a thought.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:41 am 
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As regards to the helmet, if I was to buy the model required and modify it, does one size fit all?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:26 pm 

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The helmets come in different sizes.

Im unsure what size the original film props were.

Im also unsure if just the inside liner would change in size, or if the shell changes to? Presume just the liner would vary in size?

So whatever size you bought the shell would be the same size, and the modelled side greeblies would be the right scale for any size helmet? Is that correct?

Anyone know?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:30 pm 
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Shells come in different sizes.

Greeblies are the same.

I'm sure between the two actors, the helmet sizes were different.

Gio might confirm.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:07 pm 

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Thanks


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:17 pm 
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This can be usefull stuff, as Ive a big head and dont wanna tiny shell on mah noggin :oops: :D

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:29 pm 
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As far as I know there are two sizes for the SPH-4: regular and extra large.
Mine is an extra large while the originals are probably size regular. I say this because I noticed some differences to the originals when doing the cutouts.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:11 am 
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Bug Stomper wrote:
As far as I know there are two sizes for the SPH-4: regular and extra large.
Mine is an extra large while the originals are probably size regular. I say this because I noticed some differences to the originals when doing the cutouts.

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Ah, so THATS what theyre called, SPH-4's? FINALLY and the truth shall set you freeeee!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:29 pm 
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Actually SPH is the abbreviation for Sound Protection Helmet and the 4 represents the 4th version...

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:50 pm 
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haha, just been watching the films, to add to my dropship uniform, could I use a plain green army cap? like a baseball cap

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:53 pm 
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haha, just been watching the films, to add to my dropship uniform, could I use a plain green army cap? like a baseball cap


I do.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:37 pm 
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Nice, where did you get yours from? Or some recommedations yknow

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:55 am 
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Been doing a little browsing around on ebay, would something like this do? seems pretty close to the ones I saw in Aliens this evening Image

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:31 am 
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I just spent the last 5 or 6 hours going through this thread. It's now 1:30AM. More comments tomorrow when I recover from staying up this late, but just let me say this....


OMFG you guys rocked this!!!!!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:45 am 
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Ok, I've had a chance to recover....

To paraphrase my favorite show (Top Gear) this thread is BRILLIANT! :D

Top notch, stunning investigative work and beautiful artistry. And a ton of generosity from Gio for sharing invaluable pics of the originals, and from all the others who worked on this and shared the results.

What a horrible time for me to be MIA :P Might'a gotten a fire lit under my a$$ sooner if I'd seen this thread back then! Seriously inspiring!!! I wanna' go pour resin right now! Hell, I just might after I finish writing this. After all, I've got these beautiful Rapier sight molds waiting to be used :)

As I read the thread, and harvested pics, I wrote down all the parts used. Only to :lol: my a$$ of when I found one already made on pg34 :roll: Got so excited about the Polaroid that I immediately posted a bid for one on ePain. Then laughed some more when I found that the parts were being run :)

Anyways, the thread's got me totally psych'd :delta: Hope to get the sight bits going soon.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:01 pm 
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Jesse that would be awesome. To be able to have both versions of the helmet available would be great, keep us posted - and welcome back! :)

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:22 pm 
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Coredeath wrote:
Nice, where did you get yours from? Or some recommedations yknow


I got mine from Sabre Sales, Portsmouth.

Look at the label inside:

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Cap, Hot Weather
Olive Green 507

DLA100-87-C-0363
8415-01-073-8724
50% POLYESTER 50% COTTON
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It has a stiffener in the front forehead/brow section that gives it a "sharp" top edge
at the hairline. There is no adjustment tab in the back like is found in a standard baseball cap.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:28 pm 
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Jesse,

I'm willing to give you my sight to complete.

I have most of the parts.


I think what is more important is doing the rapier mount piece. (vacuum + resin bits)


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:56 pm 
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That part's up to Stephen. My molds are for everything else. I couldn't get the base mold done in the (entirely too long) time I had the piece. When I sent the sight back to Stephen, I was originally going to give him the molds too, but he doesn't have pressure casting equipment, and that's DEFINITELY needed for a couple of the parts :P In the strongest resin possible, to boot. I'm using Smooth-On Task 9 for it, since I've yet to find anything stronger that still flows ok. Granted I haven't tried every product they make yet, but I've tried a few ;) So, the Rapier Sight unit's still gonna' be a tag-team with SL & me.

When I had it though, it definitely looked like the base was vac-formed out of several pieces (Kydex maybe?), and then cemented together. Then the rails were glued on. Don't know what Steve's plan is though. I was gonna' make a negative mold and glass it.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:02 pm 
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Ttaskmaster, thanks for the info m8. But I went on ahead and bought that one I showed above, it was the last one going on ebay, so it was either buy one I thought looked good then, or watch it go ^^

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:19 pm 
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Yep... Neg mold for the platform. then add on the rails. I am working on claying it up now.

I have the rubber. Not long now.

Glad you're back Jesse!!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:02 pm 
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Speaking of dropships, Im at college right now so cant check the films lol, where does the victory by wings patch appear on the dropships flight suit?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:41 pm 
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Chris it's on the left breast.

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