This is a good idea Paul, with the security situation in the UK being what it is now it's a good idea to have some regulation in place for ourselves in terms of replica weapons use and sutch.

Also it's good to have rules as to members behaviour etc. when on a drop.

Playing the devil's advocate again for a minute one thing I'm worried about may be the rogue element who has the "I don't follow any rules other than my own" attitude. Now obviously if they mess up on a drop they'll not be invited to do another one, but what concerns me is that if they're not 'in' in the first place, how do you get them 'out'?

This raises the question of do we have a (paid?) membership scheme of some sort?

I think it wouldn't hurt to speak with the UKG folks like TonyRB or Dacrates for example to see how they do it. I think in terms of membership guidelines and such we can learn a lot from those guys.

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The thing with that Harry is that you can't stop someone from turning up to an event in a costume wether they are a member of the UKCM or not. Anyone who has signed up on the UKCM website would be expected to follow the guidelines and anyone who turns up who has not signed up would be asked if they want to and if so would have to adhere to the guidelines.

Anyone, who behaved badly etc would be removed from the UKCM member list and told that they are not welcome on any future drops.

Of course, they can still turn up to an event we are at as we can't physically stop them. The difference being that they would not be there with the UKCM and this would be mentioned to the organisers. Neither would they be allowed at any table we may have or use of any facilities made available by the organisers.

I don't think having a paid membership will alter the above in anyway. Hopefully no one will behave in an appropriate manner anyway but if they should then all that can be done is as I have said above and I would hope that after being told they are not welcome with us that they would not want to go to an event we are at anyway.

At least that's my opinion on it.

@ Munkey

I will have a think about guidelines and post up something later. I think alot of it will be common sense stuff anyway.

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Darren

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A few of our most important rules should be weapons-related, I feel.


No live blades of any kind should be carried, whether sheathed or not.

Replica blades should be peace-tied and never removed from their sheaths in a public place. ( This one sucks, but sadly it makes sense I suppose allowances could be made for rubber knives at events taking place in areas that we or someone we're working with has complete access control )

Unless as part of a pre-arranged target shoot, no ammunition, gun gas or batteries should be carried by any member equipped with an airsoft pulse-rifle. Thompson magazines and Remington shells should be checked and double-checked.

Blank-firing pulse rifles should also be unloaded unless they are being used in a pre-arranged manner in an area that we or someone we're working with has complete control over.


It might be an idea to designate a "Weapons officer" to check each marine out before every drop, make sure their kit passes safety regulations. ( And make sure 'Troon's got his crotch tape on if there's gonna be kids present )

No weapon should ever be pointed at any person who has not specifically asked ( Ideally with witnesses ) the marine carrying it to do so ( For a photo ).


Do we want to go so far as to have rules regarding harsh language?

Obviously our code of conduct should include mention of threatening / lewd behaviour, and it might be an idea to come up with a prescribed course of action should any of us ( Looking more at the bugs here, as this is more of a problem for them ) be "messed with" by a member of the public...

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I think so. It's common sense that strong language should only be used if the context calls for it, but it doesn't hurt to have it listed officially.

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I'd be careful how we word any rule on that though... IMHO, dropping an accidental "Bollocks!" right after your mag hits the floor is fine - But going off on an XXX-rated rant would not be.

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I'd have to say that if children (say under 14-ish) are present then there should be absolutely no bad language at all.

Now I know as well as you do that kids that age know all the swear words but there's a chance of getting into trouble with the parents, plus we have to set a good example under any circumstances.

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I agree that we should TRY not to swear, but I'd hate to see someone kicked out because under the letter of our law an accidental curse is a banning offence.

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I doubt such an "offence" would be punishable by an instant ban. I don't think we are trying for anything so draconian.

"Every effort *should* be made to try to limit bad language by members while on a drop for the sake of children and those of a sensitive disposition."

There you go.

Well seems like the basic`s are turely covered here.

It really boils down to using Common Sense & lagnuage & I think we all have that capacity.

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We should have a list of approved curse words..

Frak
Frell
You evil mother crusher
You filthy crumbbag

For example "Fun you. Fun you all to Frell. You spicy Melon Farmer. You Evil motherfather.."

Join in and enjoy.

Gorram it!

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That sounds fair enough - The idea of no curses allowed at all?
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Well worded Fal, that's exactly what I meant.

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This site has some useful phrases:

http://www.jiawen.net/phrases.html

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Some times I can not help it.

I some times swear without meaning too.

I just used to swearing. It is just one off though things.

I will try but I can not say that I will not swear if you know what I mean.

Common Sense is the only rule in a way.

Cheer's Steven

Ok here's my thoughts. It's all pretty much common sense stuff but since we need to get something down in writing as it were:

Conduct at an event

Weaponry

1. No real steel weapons will be allowed at conventions

2. Any airsoft weapon must have:
• No ammunition in the magazine or breach
• No battery connected
• No gas

3. No real knives will be allowed without exception.

4. Any replica knives must be sheathed at all times.

Personal behaviour

1. All UKCM members must do their utmost to avoid swearing when around members of the public, especially children.

2. No UKCM member should use threatening or abusive behaviour towards members of the public, event organisers or fellow members.

3. Any grievances should be addressed to Paul Maitland.

UKCM Table area

1. Any space allocated for use by the UKCM must be kept clean and tidy.
• No rubbish should be left on or under any tables being used for display.
• No luggage should be stored under or behind any tables.

Future Events

Any event that a member feels would be good for the UKCM should be brought to the attention of Paul Maitland who will liaise with the event organisers as the representative of the UKCM.

No member should contact any event organisers saying that they “represent” the UKCM.

Sounds fair enough to me - I still reckon we should have a wee mention covering pointing of weapons, as that doesn't really come under "Threatening behaviour".

So all event possibilities are to go through the 'Troon now?

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I think that would be best yeah. You don't really want anyone and everyone phoning up events on behalf of the UKCM. You'll end up with more than person ringing the same event and also (however unlikely) you don't want someone getting shitty with an organiser on the phone or promising stuff we can't deliver etc.

I agree about the pointing weapons as well. That should be added in.

Cheers

Darren

It just seems like a bit of a hassle for him, is all - Specially for example if me, Fraz, G and whoever else joins the Scottish contingent are doing a drop that none of you southerners are attending...

Maybe we could nominate someone from each area to be the point of contact, and they just have to keep 'Troon informed?
I'd be happy to do it for up here, but with all the wedding plans I feel Fraz or G may have more free brain-runtime if they'd be willing.

Unless Troon wants to do it all himself...

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Probably best if someone identifies an event the UKCM might want to attend, is post it here first and then we decide who will contact them. Or something like that?

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Well I guess it will be up to Troon ultimately but having one person for events in England (troon) and one for Scotland (whoever that is) is not a bad idea.

I think the point I made above is the main reason for this though. Whilst anyone can go to any event they want to, of course, if it is to be a UKCM drop then I think there should be continuity with who liases with organisers rather than just "I heard about this event so I called the guy and told him blah blah blah" if you know what I mean,

and of course any event someone sees can also be posted about here for all to see, I did not mean to infer that they should not post about an event before contacting Paul, only that Paul should speak to the organisers if it is decided that it will be an official Drop.

Feel free to jump back into this thread Paul


Cheers

Darren

K.I.S.S.

That all I got to say.

Cheer's Steven